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יט [יז] מוטב לאדם להרבות במתנות אביונים, מלהרבות בסעודתו ובשלוח לריעיו--שאין שם שמחה גדולה ומפוארה, אלא לשמח לב עניים ויתומים ואלמנות וגרים, שהמשמח לב האמיללים האלו מידמה בשכינה, שנאמר "להחיות רוח שפלים, ולהחיות לב נדכאים" (ישעיהו נז,טו
כ [יח] כל ספרי הנביאים וכל הכתובים, עתידין ליבטל לימות המשיח, חוץ ממגילת אסתר--הרי היא קיימת כחמישה חומשי תורה, וכהלכות של תורה שבעל פה, שאינן בטילין, לעולם. ואף על פי שכל זכרון הצרות ייבטל, שנאמר "כי נשכחו, הצרות הראשונות, וכי נסתרו, מעיניי" (ישעיהו סה,טז)--ימי הפורים לא ייבטלו, שנאמר "וימי הפורים האלה, לא יעברו מתוך היהודים, וזכרם, לא יסוף מזרעם" (אסתר ט,כח
This is the Rambam we focused on this Shabbos in Chabura. To build up our skills lets recreate the Chabura step by step. Those of you who are reading this and would like to ask questions and start along with those who are reviewing, go right ahead ask your questions.
Lets try to identify the starting point as a summary of the Rambam. Then lets pose problems or a series of problems first, then we will define principles and proceed to solve the problems-ok? Remember any problem question or fishing attempt about any idea or term is good. Also it doesn't matter if we did ask the question, implied it, or just should have asked it in your opinion. Put your summary of Halacha Chaf (the last one) and subsequent questions you think should be asked in the comment section. We will deal with the earlier one (yud tet) after.
Lets try to identify the starting point as a summary of the Rambam. Then lets pose problems or a series of problems first, then we will define principles and proceed to solve the problems-ok? Remember any problem question or fishing attempt about any idea or term is good. Also it doesn't matter if we did ask the question, implied it, or just should have asked it in your opinion. Put your summary of Halacha Chaf (the last one) and subsequent questions you think should be asked in the comment section. We will deal with the earlier one (yud tet) after.
16 comments:
Rabbi Sacks,
I apologize for the typo in the first comment.
In terms of your alternate suggestion I feel like it might not work so well. Having us try to formulate the ideas ourselves will allow us to test our formulation to see if it matches the idea, that way you can correct our mistakes in the idea. whereas having you put up a summary (even in a step by step manner) will allow the illusion of agreement even if the ideas are not the same. many times in shiur what you think the teacher means is not what he actually maeans. I hear matt's concern but would prefer if you would allow those of us who are interested to try formulating it first so that you can correct our ideas.
Ok Ill do both. First Ill allow those who prefer to formulate their own thoughts, then react and give my own step allow comment on that etc. How about a day for summary and questions/problems. Ill try to post reactions today and my own summary tommorrow.
When I say summary in this context I dont mean of the whole shiur. I mean a step of that, saying the Rambam over in my own words that show the basis of my problems or questions. This will lead to a resolving principle.
Here is an attempt at a summary;
Megilat Esther is different then all other books of Neviim and Ketuvim, Neviim and Ketuvim in general will no longer be significant in the days of Mashiach, Megilat Esther on the other hand is similar to the Torah itself in that it will be relevant even in the days of Mashiach.
Questions:
1. Why won't we need Neviim and Ketuvim anymore?
2. How will Torah still be relevent?
3. How is Megila differant then the rest of Nach?
a. What is Megila about?
b. what is it's relationship to the rest of Torah?
c. Why will it be relevent in the future?
an added question we did not ask,
Why mention "Hilchot shel Torah SheBaal Peh" as opposed to limiting the discussion to Torah SheBichtav?
(also are we dealing with the second half or only the first half which we did on Shabbos)
When I say summary in this context I dont mean of the whole shiur. I mean a step of that, saying the Rambam over in my own words that show the basis of my problems or questions.
Now I'm confused. I thought you initially said that we should try to recreate the shiur. I assumed that when you said "summarize," you were referring to the shiur. But if you just mean that we should state the Rambam in our own words and then formulate the questions, I have absolutely no problem with that.
(By the way, now that I've stated my original problem and we've come to a solution, I'm going to delete my original comment)
Matt
Summary has two senses for me.
1) As a step in discovery-summarizing what I think is said in a text.This is a preliminary to questions and problems that mark the inadequecy of my current principles and points the way to reformulation of principle.(Moving toward the principle in Plato).I see Yaakov has done this.
2) The final step of identifying the complete motion toward the principle and back again.This is what I have done myself in the past though not as powerfully as if we do it together.
"(Moving toward the principle in Plato)."
What does Plato have to do with the area?
Yaakov
Lets deal with the entire issue we worked on this Shabbos, but only as it applies to this one Rambam. Of course if you want to deal with this Rambam with totally new eyes, just summarizing it and asking questions that occur now, that is great too. I find myself always doing a blend of these two.
Yaakov
Ill give a little time for others to participate then Ill comment on your summary and questions.
Others feel free to comment on whatever you like.
Yaakov
Ill deal with your question about Plato.
I am just reminding everyone of a methodological point that I mentioned on Shabbos. Every inquiry has two basic parts. The first part is toward the principles. This means finding the relevant universal in the particulars. This is what we do when we ask questions or problems, we are intuiting the relevant principle, whose inadequecy is the source of the question. We then reflect on the principles, reformulate them in greater abstraction and accuracy and resolve the previous problem.This is coming back from the principles.
I understand the two steps but where does Plato fit in? is he a source? an example? something else?
Yakov
Plato is the source. Inquiry can be compared to a race there and back again. "There" is toward principles."Back again" application.
In the times of the Mashiach, our Torah will consist only of the 5 books of Torah, the Oral Law and Megillat Esther. All tzarot harishonot will be forgotten and erased.
key terms - tzarot, tzarot harishonot, zikaron
Do the events leading up to the saving of the Jews on Purim belong to the category "tzarot harishonot"?
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